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Thursday, December 08, 2005

What The Arab World Thinks

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This is graphic, and I think you should each watch it and tell your friends. Click on the websites, either one (they are the same)
Subject: FW: from the horse's mouth

This is a discussion of the attitudes of Arabs towards the Western idea of peace and tranquility and civilization. Written by an Arab, not some think-tanker who thinks he/she might know what's going on. This is what we face; this is how we are viewed.
Torture is accepted and even expected in the Arab world. Yes, I know what you're thinking-that's not politically correct in most mainstream media. And you know some nice Arabs who have immigrated to America. But it's the truth in the Arab world. Might makes right. Real men don't eat quiche. They prove their manhood by the way they treat their enemy. After all it's what Muhammad did to the nonbelievers - Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians in the Quoran - the 'holy book' allegedly mishandled in Guantanamo prison.

Arab Muslim men gain honor by shaming, belittling, abusing and torturing their enemy in the most horrific ways. Just look at how the Palestinians treat so-called collaborators by disemboweling them and hanging them upside down in Manger Square in Bethlehem. Look at the terrorist torture chambers that the coalition forces recently uncovered in Iraq.
When people refer to the prisons of Saddam Hussein and his regime they think he is the extreme exception. Not! The t! ruth is his torture tactics are quite the norm in the Arab world. If you want to see torture that is beyond what any Westerner can ever imagine please go to ( http://www.masada2000.org/impalement.asx
<http://www.masada2000.org/impalement.asx> )

Yes, you read it right, impalement. You'll get a glimpse of what the Arabs do to their own people.
As someone who came from the Arab world and knows how they think, it frustrates me to see self-appointed righteous minded politicians and media pundits oblivious to Arabic culture and thinking, criticizing America's actions at Guantanamo. These are a bunch of al Qaeda jihadists who were captured while bent on killing us - the kaffirs or 'unbelievers. They lau gh watching our government bend over backwards, forwards and sideways trying to appease the critics. The more we stumble over ourselves questioning our goals and tactics, the more they think we are weak and easy to defeat.

They smirk because they believe that Americans have demonstrated how stupid and weak they are by caving in to stories about maltreatment of Guantanamo detainees. They are watching our critics in this country and counting on them to embolden the radical Islamic cause and weaken our resolve.

Actually Gitmo is a joke as far as the Arabs are concerned. Prison? You call that a prison? Let me tell you what some of the prisoners call Guantanamo, "Al muntazah al-dini lilmujaheden al Muslimin," The Religious Resort for Islamic Militants. They are given three halal meals a day in accordance to their religious dictates. How man! y kosher prisons are there in the Arabic world? None. Jews captured in the Arab world are butchered like those obscene pictures taken in Ramallah during the frenzied slaughter of two Israeli reservists who got lost. Remember the Palestinian man holding his red, Jewish blood dripping hands, high above his head in victory? Remember Nick Berg's head being held high also?

Most of these detainees never had three meals a day in their entire life. They are gaining weight, and are living in what they refer to in Arabic as "Al-Jannah," paradise. They have radio, television, soccer games, air-conditioning, clean clothes, servants, meaning American GIs, who wait on them hand and foot. They have Islamic chaplains and handed Qu'rans, the social hate guide against Infidels, by people so concerned as not to offend that they wear latex gloves and carry the book with two hands.

Many Muslims in the Middle East would gladly give up their poverty, dictatorial governments, corrupt! leaders and social bondage to enjoy the relative luxuries Guantanamo offers. They have free medical care, better than millions of uninsured Americans and our military men and women serving on the jihadists' battlefield. Some of them who couldn't afford to see an optometrist now have glasses and can see and read their Qu'ran. Others who never had the opportunity to see a dentist now have a free dental plan. It has become such a joke; we even stop interrogations to let them take prayer breaks demanded by their religion.

As an Arab, I can tell you that Illinois Democratic Senator Richard Durbin is aiding and abetting the goals and strategy of Islamic jihadists who have declared war on the United States. Where was Durbin's comparison to the Nazis when we found the torture chambers in Iraq? Where was Durbin's comparison to Soviet gulags when we found the hundreds of thousands of bodies in Saddam's mass graves?

Where was Durbin's head when he compared prisoners captured on the field of battle to the internment of Japanese American civilians during WWII? OK, apologize to unarmed citizens, not fighters with weapons in their hands.

Where was Durbin when he compared Gitmo and Abu Ghraib to the industry of death that murdered 6 million Jewish men, women and children during WWII? If anything his heart and mind were in the jihadists terrorists' camp. If you see what story is being downloaded and shared by viewers of the al Jazeera web site you will find the story on Durbin's comments the winner.

If I were an Islamic terrorist I would be thanking Durbin and forwarding his views to all my fellow fanatics. His reckless comments fuel the fanatic frenzied jihadists, motivating them to blow themselves up in the midst of innocent civilians, savagely cut the heads of helpless hostage! s and devote themselves to killing the infidel who could be your neigh bor stationed in Iraq. Just like the Quran says they should.

Dick Durbin is an unwitting champion of Islamic radical fundamentalists. His comments should be known from this day forward as a "Durbinization" of the facts. To demonize something grossly out of proportion to what the enemy is doing is to Durbinize.

Gitmo and Abu Ghraib have been Durbinized and the Arab world loves it. They laugh at Durbin because he's supporting their belief in the destruction of our country and civilization. The shame is Durbin doesn't have a clue as to what he's done. As far as he's concerned, he did the right thing for the Islamic radical detainees living high on the proverbial hog in Gitmo. What he really did was made them laugh.

Laugh at us for being fools and not real men. Now it's time to see if the voters in Illinois and his fellow members of Congress are men and women enough to tell the Moslem world Durbin isn't our real man.
Brigitte Gabriel is the former news anchor of World News for Middle East television, and now a Contributing Editor of FamilySecurityMatters.com and the founder of AmericanCongressforTruth

I pray that more would confront the MSM and the Democratic Party with the truth.
?They smirk because they believe that Americans have demonstrated how stupid and weak they are by caving in to stories about maltreatment of Guantanamo detainees. They are watching our critics in this country and counting on them to embolden the radical Islamic cause and weaken our resolve."

This statement alone sums it all up. We ourselves as a country will be our won downfall.
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I have read her stuff before. If only our politicians would read it. I almost threw up watching that video. Where did you get that? Do you have any history for it?

I have offically lost my appetite for the day!
So are you saying since they tortue it's ok for us to do it?
When people tell me no one's culture is better than another, I tell them BS.
Thanks for more proof.

Toad, you're a tard. We don't torture, we inconvenience people occasionally.
In a little-noticed Pentagon news briefing in August, Myers laid out the likely consequences if the U.S. is perceived as retreating under fire. "The stakes are huge," said Myers. "If the Zarqawis of the world, if (al Qaeda) were allowed to be successful in Iraq, in their view, that would be the start of the caliphate that they envision. The stakes would be huge for the region. You talk about instability. It would be instant instability in that region, in Saudi Arabia on down the Gulf states, perhaps Iran, Syria, Turkey."

With those words, Myers unambiguously identified America's strategic imperative for the post invasion conflict in Iraq -- preventing the birth of a fundamentalist Islamic empire spanning the entire Middle East -- al Qaeda's Caliphate.
Ref: http://intelwire.egoplex.com/caliphate-10-20-2005.pdf

The Islamofacists believe it is their destiny to carve out the Caliphate that is dictated by their religion. We are going to be the hurt locker if we follow the counsel of the radical left.
The links to this site look suspect...it looks rather manufactured and edited since some of those angles require more than one camera to capture the shot. Still, without the video, the words of this post are just as graphic and need to be read by all who think one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!
Americans fight their wars in tune to their moral standards and return from the front weeping and in shock from the inhumanity, torture and barbarity of the enemy. Start with WW II in the Pacific, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, Cuba, SW Africa, Central Africa, Afghanistan, and now the Middle East.They define barbarism as an aberration from American standards of warfare. Can someone assist Poldark Maximus arrive at undersatnding here? Are Americans not adaptable? Educable? Is there not more hubris than morality involved in conducting war on your terms rather than that of your defined enemy? www.poldarkmaximus.com
So where did you get this video from and has it been authenticated?
I hit the site and it's pretty raunchy. I've seen other sites like this. But some of the still pics of torture and victims cant have been fabricated. They are not for the faint of heart. But as I looked at this movie again, it just seems all wrong...actions of the spectators, clothes of the spectators (they look Indian/Paki), the camera angles, the fact that when this guy is impailed, you dont see a close-up or a behind shot. The camera shots are also too steady, unlike the films I've seen where the focus gets fuzzy when the camera person wants a tight shot. I think it's staged. Also, why has this not gotten more coverage on the web if it's real? Save from the film, the words of the author are distrubing and I have read similar ideas from other muslims who are not sympatheic to their terrorist brethren.
There is only one justice for these animals. Use a razor like the ones they used to strip them of their 'manhood' so when they meet their virgins of hell, they won't have anything to work with. Scum.
PS. That would be so they could bleed to death. I hate them.

Why has everyone forgotten we are supposed to hate our enemies? Win at all costs? I don't care what our guys do to them. This crap about, "We treat them nice so they'll treat us nice upon capture" is a daggone joke.

Thanks for the article.
One day it will all boil down to two guys left standing. One will say to the other, "Time out. Let's consult the Marquis of Queensbury rules before we engage each other in this final battle-to-death."

Your question of the day is, Who wins...?
We win...and a Marine shall lead us, with close air support from an A-10, and direct field artillery from a 155...the real question of the day, who wants to try us?
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